WCHE Legal Talk Radio Podcasts
Chester County Life Magazine Runs A Feature Story On Stephen And Peter’s Radio Program, Legal Talk, In Their January/february 2012 Issue
Listen in to Legal Talk By Susan I. Shiber
At first glance around Steve Karp’s law office, you can’t miss an enormous glass jar of brightly colored jelly beans. One wonders if the attorney has an insatiable sweet tooth, or is he a fan of President Ronald Reagan. Actually, the candy represents a pivotal conclusion in a personal injury case. Karp & Hart is the only suburban law firm that limits its practice exclusively to personal and medical injury.
As for the jelly beans, Karp represented an automobile accident victim, who was in such pain that multiple pills were prescribed. “We could have merely pointed out that the man took lots of medication,” says Karp. “So what? The jar contains more than 12,000 jelly beans. Each one symbolizes a pill. Each pill costs $79. I poured the entire contents on the floor of the court room and announced that this is how many pills he required in four years since the accident. He was awarded a settlement.”
“You have to be interesting to capture a jury’s attention,” adds Peter Hart. “We’re trial lawyers. If we can’t sell a story, we’re less likely to receive a verdict in favor of our client. Drama helps.”
Some of that drama is presented each week on Legal Talk, heard Tuesdays at noon on WCHE 1520AM radio. The live call-in show, which is both informative and entertaining, has been on the air for 23 years. As the nation’s longest running legal radio program, topics from car insurance to custody issues, movies to malpractice, novels to negligence, criminal cases to civil suits have been covered. Guests may be famous, infamous, or funny. Local judges, politicians, and educators join critically acclaimed authors, attorneys, and subjects of popular films on the roster. WCHE 1520AM is West Chester andCentralChesterCounty’s only community radio station.
From a cast of thousands, here is a selection of some of the most intriguing guests. Jan Schlichtmann became famous in the 1980s when he alleged that chemicals from W.R. Grace and Beatrice Co. had contaminated drinking water in Woburn, Massachusetts, causing children to die. The movie A Civil Action starring John Travolta was based on the case. Karp interviewed Schlichtmann and author Jonathan Harr, whose book resulted in the film. “The attorney turned down two million dollars based on principle,” recalls Karp. “He admitted if he knew then what he knows now, he would have accepted the money.”
Karp had the opportunity to reverse roles with one of his former Villanova law professors. John Dobbyn came on Legal Talk to discuss his legal crime novel, Frame Up that tells stories about real folks get caught up in the system’s fuzzy moral contours. “I told him I was going to grade him on his performance,” he chuckles.
One of Hart’s favorite shows featured local judge the honorable William P. Mahon. “He presides overChester County Drug Court, a program that stresses accountability and productivity for non-violent offenders coping with addiction,” explains Hart. “Judge Mahon stressed how much taxpayer money is saved by deferring charges and trials while individuals complete rehab.”
Both men were pleased to show the real story behind the highly publicized Liebeck v. McDonald’s Restaurants. “This was the most misunderstood case in many years,” suggests Hart. “Susan Saladoff produced a documentary called Hot Coffee and she shared what she learned with our audience.”
In short, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman fromAlbuquerque, was a passenger in her son’s car. She purchased a cup of coffee from McDonald’s drive-through and attempted to open it to add cream and sugar. She spilled the entire cup on her lap and suffered third degree burns on six percent of her body and lesser burns over 16 percent. She had skin grafts, lost 20 pounds and required two years of medical treatment. What came out in the trial is that the restaurant requires its franchisees to serve coffee at 180 to 190 degrees when it should never be more than 140 degrees. At such high temperatures, third degree burns can result in 12 to 15 seconds after coffee touches the body, even through cotton sweatpants, such as those worn by Liebeck. Documents shown in court revealed that more than 700 people reported burns from McDonald’s coffee.
The woman’s lawsuit was the butt of late night talk show hosts and people on the street berated her for audacity. Saladoff’s piece presented the truth. “That’s why we do the show,” points out Hart. “Law is mystifying and we attempt to de-mystify it. We keep it simple and try to make sense of what goes on behind the scenes.”
One behind-the-scenes guest drew substantial interest. John D. Pistone aka Donnie Brasco is a former FBI agent from Erie. He worked undercover for six years infiltrating the Bonanno crime family. His results convinced FBI leadership that undercover agents are powerful law enforcement tools. Johnny Depp portrayed Pistone in Donnie Brasco, a 1997 film that captured life among Mafia wise guys.
Gerry Spence, who gained attention for high profile cases, including the representation of Karen Silkwood’s family, is another colorful personality, one that Karp insists has an ego the size of Texas. Philadelphia-born Gloria Allred, nee Bloom, is equally notable for tales of her time on Court TV. Allred’s colleague Catherine Crier wrote The Case Against Lawyers and came on the radio to criticize current legal system dysfunction and litigation-crazed culture.
Every few years, the attorneys invite callers to talk about their favorite legal movie. “To Kill a Mockingbird usually wins,” notes Karp. “Topping the list, too, are 12 Angry Men, Inherit the Wind, and My Cousin Vinnie.”
Consistently popular themes address callers’ personal legal problems, such as traffic violations, wills and estates, and penalties for crimes. “We give a general overview and urge callers to contact an attorney,” explains Hart. “If they call off-air, we often help them find an appropriate firm. “We do not do the show to promote Karp & Hart. We do it to edify the public, clarify legal concerns, and disclose misconceptions.”
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Join Peter Hart and Stephen Karp on Legal Talk on WCHE1520 AM in Chester County, PA every Tuesday at noon and join in the lively discussions with their guests or call in with your questions.